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 From: bill.g@sympatico.ca 
  
 shamoo wrote: 
  
 > "Bill"  wrote in message 
 > news:41F163C1.F8C934DB@sympatico.ca... 
 > > 
 > > 
 > > shamoo wrote: 
 > > 
 > >> "Bill"  wrote in message 
 > >> news:41F1588E.71BD22EF@sympatico.ca... 
 > >> > 
 > >> > 
 > >> > gapope@vcn.bc.ca wrote: 
 > >> > 
 > >> >> Carter  wrote: 
 > >> >> C> > Otherwise the only official language of the federal government 
 > >> >> would 
 > >> >> C> > still be English. That PM stabbed Canada in the back. 
 > >> >> C> 
 > >> >> C> What a load of unadulterated bullshit.  Get some education, learn 
 > >> >> C> about your country so you won't look like a bigoted fool. 
 > >> >> C> 
 > >> >> C> Canada has had two official languages, English and French, ever 
 > >> >> C> since it became a country. 
 > >> >> 
 > >> >> From our Constitution: 
 > >> >> 
 > >> >>   IX.--MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS. 
 > >> >>    133. Either the English or the French Language may be used by any 
 > >> >>    Person in the Debates of the Houses of the Parliament of Canada 
 and 
 > >> >> of 
 > >> >>    the Houses of the Legislature of Quebec; and both those Languages 
 > >> >>    shall be used in the respective Records and Journals of those 
 > >> >> Houses; 
 > >> >>    and either of those Languages may be used by any Person or in any 
 > >> >>    Pleading or Process in or issuing from any Court of Canada 
 > >> >> established 
 > >> >>    under this Act, and in or from all or any of the Courts of Quebec. 
 > >> >> 
 > >> >>    The Acts of the Parliament of Canada and of the Legislature of 
 > >> >> Quebec 
 > >> >>    shall be printed and published in both those Languages.(66) 
 > >> >> 
 > >> >> Makes sense that this would be interpreted by the courts, if/when 
 such 
 > >> >> was 
 > >> >> ever a challenge, as an overall officializing of both languages in 
 > >> >> official 
 > >> >> matters. . . 
 > >> > 
 > >> > You miss the point! Article 133 did not officialize anything. It 
 > >> > provided 
 > >> > permission 
 > >> > for both French and English to be used as was described in the 
 article. 
 > >> 
 > >> We know, you like waste your life on semantics that you twist to fill 
 > >> your 
 > >> hate filled agenda 
 > > 
 > > Come on! That's a load of horse shit and you know it. 
 > > 
 > > There are no "semantics" in the FACT that French was not used as an 
 > > official 
 > > language of anything, save Quebec, until Trudeau re-wrote the 
 constitution 
 > > to 
 > > include French as an official language of Canada in 1982.  And you know 
 > > it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
 > 
 > No, you're wrong. Just because it wasn't used, doesn't mean it wasn't 
 > EXPRESSLY permitted. 
  
 Yes it is EXPRESSLY permitted!!!!!!  But no where else!!! 
  
 Article 133 does not mention anything about the  language to be used in the 
 Nova 
 Scotia Legislature or New Brunswick Legislature or PEI Legislature,,, Just 
 Quebec because French is EXPRESSLY permitted only where the article 
 specifies. 
 IE, Where EXPRESSLY specified, and no where else in government other then 
 that 
 EXPRESSLY permitted!!!!!! in article 133. 
  
 This is the real Article 133 to the constitution Act of 1876. (below)   Note 
 how 
 it  EXPRESSLY permits french to be used in the LEGISLATURE OF QUEBEC and how 
 specific it is in describing where French may be used. No other Legislatures 
 are 
 mentioned because the only official language of Canada was English, so none 
 need 
 be mentioned except the province where French is EXPRESSLY permitted!!!!!! 
  
 Section 133 [Official Languages] 
 Either the English or the French Language may be used by any Person in the 
 Debates of the Houses of the Parliament of Canada and of the Houses of the 
 LEGISLATURE OF QUEBEC; and both those Languages shall be used in the 
 respective 
 Records and Journals of those Houses; and either of those Languages may be 
 used 
 by any Person or in any Pleading or Process in or issuing from any Court of 
 Canada established under this act, and in or from all or any of the Courts 
 of 
 Quebec. 
 The Acts of the Parliament of Canada and of the LEGISLATURE OF QUEBEC shall 
 be 
 printed and published in both those Languages. 
  
  
  
  
  
 > Trudeau didn't give any new rights away in this regard 
 > like you are trying to imply, unless you think trudeau wrote the above 
 > quoted IX. 133 
  
 He went to a lot of bother for nothing then!  (O: 
  
 > 
 > 
 > I call all "polite" rascists like yourselves by their real names, hatefull 
 > bigots.  You're as bad as the french extremists. 
  
 Just the facts, because I do not like seeing the majority of Canadians being 
 screwed just to push power, control, and money into one ethnic group in 
 Quebec. 
  
 > 
 > 
 > There's no sense in talking to you, even when it's pointed out just how 
 long 
 > both languages have been officially used ( because let's be clear jackass, 
 > when it says french can be used in the constitution it's pretty "official" 
 ) 
 > you go on with your hateon for trudeau and the french in general. 
  
 Oh I listen to what you say. I listen to what all of you say. I also say 
 what I 
 think to be true. And the truth is that French was no more an official 
 language 
 of the federal government then Chinese. Not until Trudeau decided to re 
 write 
 history. 
  
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