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  Msg # 5067 of 5294 on ZZCA4352, Monday 7-14-24, 9:23  
  From: MI5VICTIM@MI5.GOV.UK  
  To: JILL BAKER  
  Subj: MI5 Persecution: Shoot to Kill 4/4/96 (1  
 XPost: can.canet.stats, can.community.military, can.forsale 
 XPost: can.francais 
  
 Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british 
 From: jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) 
 Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: How and Why Did it Start? 
 Reply-To: jbaker@pobox.com 
 Date: Thu Apr  4 05:03:01 1996 
  
 jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) wrote: 
  
 >bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wrote: 
  
 >>Why would 
 >>the security services expend hundreds of thousands of pounds and more than 
 fiv 
  
 >>years of manpower to try to kill a British citizen? Because ... 
  
 >So why didn't they just shoot you dead? 
 >It would have been a lot cheaper. 
  
 Please make the effort to respond to this point Mike. 
 It was a serious question. 
  
  
         Jill              (my opinions are entirely my own, no-one else's) 
  
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 Subject: Re: MI5 Persecution: How and Why Did it Start? 
 Newsgroups: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british 
 Followup-To: uk.misc,uk.politics,alt.politics.british,soc.culture.british 
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 jbaker@pobox.com (Jill Baker) wrote: 
  
 >bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) wrote: 
  
 >>Why would 
 >>the security services expend hundreds of thousands of pounds and more 
 than fiv 
 >>years of manpower to try to kill a British citizen? Because ... 
  
 >So why didn't they just shoot you dead? 
 >It would have been a lot cheaper. 
  
 I think there are two reasons nobody has taken physical action as opposed 
 to verbal; 
  
 a) A lot of people "know". Perhaps you the reader might not know, but 
 lots of people in the media etc do. Remember, I was born in the UK and 
 lived there until a couple of years ago. I don't think these people would 
 condone state-sponsored murder of someone who might be seen on a good day 
 as one of their own. 
  
 b) Rather than doind anything directly, they're going for spying, verbal 
 harassment, media harassment, every form of persecution short of the 
 physical. Because as soon as anything turns physical, the police become 
 involved; and unless it turns physical, the police can shrug and say 'not 
 our problem'. 
  
 So they persecute you and try to get you to react, either by hitting one 
 of them (in which case I clearly find myself in the wrong as far as the 
 police are concerned), or by trying to harm myself (in which case they 
 can pretend they weren't responsible). 
  
 It's a pretty unproductive form of harassment actually, because if you 
 don't react then they're wasting they're time. Or perhaps they're just 
 cheap bullies and trying to wreck someone's life, without any ulterior 
 motive? 
  
 12632 
  
 --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05 
  * Origin: you cannot sedate... all the things you hate (1:229/2) 

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