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  Msg # 5061 of 5294 on ZZCA4352, Monday 7-14-24, 9:23  
  From: MI5VICTIM@MI5.GOV.UK  
  To: MIKE CORLEY  
  Subj: MI5 Persecution: Do they fear truth? 3/1  
 XPost: can.canet.stats, can.community.military, can.forsale 
 XPost: can.francais 
  
 From: flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk (Peter Kr€ger) 
 Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.british,uk.politics,alt.politics.british 
 Subject: Re: What it's like to be watched by the security services 
 Date: 3 Oct 1995 15:38:20 GMT 
 Organization: Steinkrug Publications 
 Lines: 66 
 Message-ID: <44rldc$nrm@news.cityscape.co.uk> 
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 In article , bu765@torfree.net (Mike Corley) 
 says: 
 > 
 >It completely mystifies me how it can be done. One night in June 1992 I 
 >was in a bed-and-breakfast in Oxford (some hard facts now, you€ll be 
 >bored of the generalisations). I booked the B&B from the office phone. 
 >So if they had the office bugged, or the phone system bugged, they could 
 >have heard the call. 
  
 If it was as late as 1992 then there was already a system available to 
 feed digital video out of a domestic TV via the mains. Each raster of 
 video was preceded by a sixteen bit address which identified the 
 television set. All that was needed was a decoder box plugged into the 
 mains somewhere between your room and the grid transformer. The signal 
 was decoded and then fed down to the phone line. They probably 
 even had a PC which enabled them to see the picture as well. By 1992 the 
 technology had moved on from slowscan to near real time video with the 
 advent of devices from Brooktree and  Harris etc. 
  
  
 >the newsreader reacted. Breathed deeply, as if in psychological relief. 
  
 Maybe, or perhaps as if in:- 
  
 sci.psychology.announce 
 sci.psychology.consciousness 
 sci.psychology.journals.psyche 
 sci.psychology.journals.psycoloquy 
 sci.psychology.misc 
 sci.psychology.personality 
 sci.psychology.psychotherapy 
 sci.psychology.research 
 sci.psychology.theory 
  
 >I can't describe to you what goes through your mind when you know 
 >someone on TV is "seeing" you the viewer. 
  
 You€re doing OK so far. 
  
 >Your instinct is to switch the TV off, to change channel, 
  
 Not much point unless you switch off the TV at the mains 
  
 >like an ostrich, 
  
 Looks like Ostrich farming is going to catch on in the UK as you may have 
 seen 
 in 
 some of the other uk newsgroups 
  
  
 >The one time I did directly ask someone in the company who knew what was 
 >going on, first he spewed wool about, "well we have to think what is 
 >reality and what is proof anyway", then went into barefaced denial liar 
 >mode. It opens your eyes, if they can't say out loud what they keep 
 >saying in a disguised fashion, they must fear exposure, they must fear 
 >the truth. 
  
 wool_ barefaced_ denial_ liar_ eyes_ fashion_ fear_ exposure, 
  
 How is your mother these days Mike? 
  
 And BTW - How is the thesis coming along? 
  
 Peter Kruger 
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 flames@flames.cityscape.co.uk 
  
 3548 
  
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