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  Msg # 383 of 5294 on ZZCA4352, Monday 7-14-24, 8:18  
  From: JB  
  To: POWERHOUSE  
  Subj: Re: Serious Suggestions Please  
 XPost: hfx.forsale, ns.forsale 
 From: jimmyb@chebucto.ns.ca 
  
 hey power,  good to see u again - 
  
 Without starting something off......I understand your thoughts.  But let me 
 give you this to think about. 
  
 Lets ay two faiths share similar ideas, some say worship the same God, come 
 from a same point of ancestory....okay? Now, one of those faiths that are 
 using the history of the older faith has changed some of the things to come 
 up with something completely different. 
  
 So, now, people who want to make sure the original God is present properly 
 to people, and to make sure the difference is know, preach that.  It's up to 
 the person to believe the differences etc... 
  
 Personally Powerhouse, when I preach to a different faith, take Islam for 
 example, it's what we are talking about here, I start right away by 
 mentioning two things    1- YOU MUST LISTEN TO YOUR GOVERNMENT - our faith 
 even says so--  as many think westerners are there to overthrow their 
 government by faith and lies. 2- We, as Children of God through Jesus the 
 Christ, DO NOT CLAIM that allah had a son, that he slept with Mary 
 etc....and remember even Mohammed said Christians and Jews are part of the 
 Umma or believer family. 
  
 I say this to start off on their field, set at easy political people and 
 religious alike. And any "faith" issues beyond pointing out false beliefs 
 about Christians and even parts of their own book they follow not according 
 to the original writing, anything else is up to them. 
  
 See?  More about correction, not about conversion. 
  
 Hope that helps some? 
  
 PowerHouse  wrote in message 
 news:3elQb.71947$IF6.1794843@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... 
 > Has anyone ever thought that by preaching one religious belief to a group 
 of 
 > people, who by race and geography have come from another faith, usually 
 > starts huge problems in their part of the world? 
 > 
 > I know..  not a good place to ask that question, but it must be asked.. 
 > 
 > no need to reply in thread, since I am sure this post will offend many 
 > people and trigger flames and posts for about a week.. 
 > 
 > :) 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > "jb"  wrote in message 
 > news:busmof$604$1@News.Dal.Ca... 
 > > jonah 
 > > 
 > > yeah, that is a problem too. 
 > > 
 > > i never used to believe in missionaries when there's so muh to do here. 
 > But 
 > > honestly, when I reached out to Pakistan and China, they welcomed this 
 > > ministry with an appetite.  Actually, India reached out to us. 
 > > 
 > > Seeing what is happening there, the amazing experiences straight from 
 NEw 
 > > Testament stuff to the true need and opposition there.  To see how we 
 have 
 > > such liberty (although becoming cut back now if you truly look) - we 
 offer 
 > > anyone coming here full freedom, freedoms which actually have started to 
 > > require the general Christian faith to be cut back in Canada.  But 
 that's 
 > a 
 > > soapbox  
 > > 
 > > Point is,  these guys need help just getting to see the truth of the 
 Bible 
 > > (I'm talking people who want to see and believe that), and be allowed to 
 > > without the adults being beaten, and the children being raped.  It's 
 > really 
 > > that bad. 
 > > 
 > > Jim 
 > > 
 > > Jonah Wamboldt  wrote in message 
 > > news:B%kQb.3161$Ja2.42440@nnrp1.uunet.ca... 
 > > > i dont know, my church can hardly hold onto what they have, 
 > > > "jb"  wrote in message 
 > > > news:busi5f$44c$1@News.Dal.Ca... 
 > > > > Hi, 
 > > > > 
 > > > > yes, i will be doing that.  once i have a package made up, you know 
 > > > flyers, 
 > > > > poster etc....to take the pastors and let them approach their 
 > > > copngregation 
 > > > > about it. 
 > > > > 
 > > > > Thanks knidly, 
 > > > > jim 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > > Chromedomicon  wrote in message 
 > > > > news:8gi3109mtemrukdtiutk1rnj0c2o66lbcg@4ax.com... 
 > > > > > X-No-Archive: yes    On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 20:00:34 -0400, "jb" 
 > > > > >  wrote: 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >Hey all,  even the lurkers  
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >This is a serious request,  if it offends you, please just 
 ignore. 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >I will be soon trying to raise money for a mission to Pakistan to 
 > > help 
 > > > an 
 > > > > > >Orphanage there, and seed a school. 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >I am thinking of good ways to raise money - it's not something 
 I've 
 > > > done 
 > > > > in 
 > > > > > >the past (besides trying to sell stuff in here, which really 
 upsets 
 > > > some 
 > > > > > >people for some reason.) 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >I would appreciate any help, if anyone has non-profit 
 fund-raising 
 > > > > > >experience, or works for a large company that donates $$ or items 
 > > that 
 > > > > could 
 > > > > > >be auctioned at ebay or something. 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >Official receipts that can be verified with Joint Stock and Bond 
 > > > Company 
 > > > > > >will be given (not tax deductible at this point, but proof of 
 > > > non-profit 
 > > > > > >good standing). 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >All income is made available for public viewing through Joint 
 Stock 
 > > and 
 > > > > Bond 
 > > > > > >Company. 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >Again thanks,  the goal will be $3500CAN and I'll have a website 
 > > soon. 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >Thanks for looking. 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >James 
 > > > > > > 
 > > > > > >ps- i dont think the .general sites are worknig so please forgive 
 > the 
 > > > > > >forsale post if anyone objects. 
 > > > > > 
 > > > > > Have you approached any other churches? Might be a good place to 
 > > > > > start. 
 > > > > 
 > > > > 
 > > > 
 > > > 
 > > 
 > > 
 > 
 > 
  
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