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  Msg # 1393 of 1759 on ZZCA4349, Monday 7-14-24, 8:09  
  From: THE DOCTOR  
  To: PLUTEDPUP@OUTLOOK.COM  
  Subj: Re: ChatGPT reviews Doctor Who - The Und  
 XPost: rec.arts.drwho, uk.media.tv.sf.drwho, rec.arts.tv 
 XPost: rec.arts.sf.tv 
 From: doctor@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca 
  
 In article <0001HW.2BC712E408DA581F30BAF638F@news.giganews.com>, 
 Pluted Pup   wrote: 
 >On Tue, 09 Apr 2024 16:37:53 -0700, The Doctor wrote: 
 > 
 >> In article<0001HW.2BC5F96208C79A9A30E89E38F@news.giganews.com>, 
 >> Pluted Pup   wrote: 
 >> > On Mon, 08 Apr 2024 08:23:19 -0700, The Doctor wrote: 
 >> > 
 >> > > "Doctor Who - The Underwater Menace" is a four-part serial from the 
 Fourth 
 >> > > Season of the original series, first broadcast in 1967. The story 
 revolves 
 >> > > around the Doctor and his companions landing on the lost 
 >underwater city of 
 >> > > Atlantis, where they encounter a megalomaniacal scientist intent 
 >on raising 
 >> > > Atlantis from the depths of the ocean. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > Episode 1 introduces the intriguing premise of an underwater 
 civilisation, 
 >> > > showcasing impressive set design and atmosphere. However, 
 >subsequent episodes 
 >> > > struggle to maintain momentum, with the plot becoming increasingly 
 >convoluted 
 >> > > and the pacing uneven. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > One of the standout elements of "The Underwater Menace" is the 
 memorable 
 >> > > performance of Joseph Furst as Professor Zaroff, the deranged 
 scientist 
 >> > > determined to conquer the world. Furst brings a charismatic yet 
 sinister 
 >> > > presence to the role, elevating the story whenever he appears on 
 screen. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > Unfortunately, the serial suffers from production limitations, 
 >particularly 
 >> > > evident in the underwater sequences, which are hampered by 
 >primitive special 
 >> > > effects. Additionally, the characterisation of the Doctor and his 
 >companions 
 >> > > feels somewhat underdeveloped, with less focus on their interactions 
 and 
 >> > > dynamics compared to other serials. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > While "The Underwater Menace" has its flaws, including a somewhat 
 >lackluster 
 >> > > resolution, it still offers moments of entertainment and showcases the 
 >> > > creativity of Doctor Who's early years. 
 >> > > 
 >> > > Episode 1: 6/10 
 >> > > Episode 2: 5/10 
 >> > > Episode 3: 4/10 
 >> > > Episode 4: 5/10 
 >> > > 
 >> > > Overall Rating: 5/10 
 >> > 
 >> > What good is this "chatGPT" junk? Stupid "chatGPT" doesn't 
 >> > even mention that the first and forth chapter is in telesnaps. 
 >> > 
 >> > The Underwater Menace is the only presentation I've seen with 
 >> > half-way decent telesnaps.They are nearly free of animation, 
 >> > if I recall right, they don't zoom in or out, they don't 
 >> > scroll, they don't have fade ins or fade outs, etc. 
 >> > 
 >> > It'd help to have some text to help explain what's going 
 >> > on that's not apparent in the dialog. And it should be 
 >> > obvious that text shouldn't scroll, especially left to right, 
 >> > as producers will evidentially do anything they can to make 
 >> > a program harder to view, so when they hear the word "text" 
 >> > they immediately think "words are boring, they must be 
 >> > animated in some way". 
 >> > 
 >> > The telesnaps in the Web of Fear episode were terrible, panning, 
 >> > scanning, zooming in and out, even oscillating between 
 >> > telesnaps during dialog, as if the viewer needs to see a 
 >> > picture of the Doctor staring at the camera in order to 
 >> > recognize his voice and words, and showing the telesnaps 
 >> > out of order. 
 >> > 
 >> > The telesnaps that came with the American DVDs of Power of 
 >> > the Daleks (at that time the BBC refused to issue Blu-Rays 
 >> > to Americans, and I didn't yet get a multi-region player) 
 >> > had a something called like Small Change presentation of 
 >> > the complete telesnaps but it was even worse: they allocated 
 >> > less than a megabyte per second which would have enough 
 >> > except that Loose Change went and animated the telesnaps! 
 >> > Steam bubbles up, the telesnaps move and each scene change 
 >> > has a fade-in and fade-out: every animation of the telesnaps 
 >> > dissolves into macro-blocks. 
 >> > 
 >> > The telesnapped Marco Polo is merely an excerpt, not complete, 
 >> > and suffers from some animation of the telesnaps. 
 >> > 
 >> > Telesnaps have a bad reputation, and this is due to 
 >> > producers treating them bad. There's no reason that 
 >> > the entire collection of black and white Doctor Who 
 >> > hasn't been released already on home video, using 
 >> > telesnaps of the unavailable episodes. 
 >> > 
 >> > The Underwater Menace has half-way decent telesnaps. 
 >> > Unnecessary animations were done to the titles in 
 >> > the beginning of the episodes and it was not necessary to 
 >> > animate the end to eliminate the Tardis from the 
 >> > picture. The storyline at that point was completely 
 >> > clear and if the last real telesnap showed the Tardis, 
 >> > so what? 
 >> 
 >> Does it have access to any telesnaps? 
 > 
 >In no way did I imply that ChatGPT or the like should 
 >be producing Doctor Who series for home video. 
 > 
 >Is that something you'd like? 
 > 
 > 
  
 How about better information? 
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