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 In article , 
 Dorothy J Heydt  wrote: 
 >In article , 
 >The Doctor  wrote: 
 >>In article , 
 >>Dorothy J Heydt  wrote: 
 >>>In article , 
 >>>The Doctor  wrote: 
 >>>>In article , 
 >>>>Dorothy J Heydt  wrote: 
 >>>>>In article , 
 >>>>>Daniel65   wrote: 
 >>>>>>The Last Doctor wrote on 28/11/23 8:49 pm: 
 >>>>>>> Daniel65  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>> Dorothy J Heydt wrote on 28/11/23 4:21 am: 
 >>>>>>>>> In article , The True Doctor 
 >>>>>>>>>  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>> On 23/11/2023 18:26, Tim Merrigan wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 21:46:36 +0000, The True Doctor 
 >>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/11/2023 20:12, Tim Merrigan wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 22 Nov 2023 14:12:28 +0000, The True Doctor 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>  wrote: 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Retarded thinking by degenerate patronizing woke 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> hypocrites and bigots who no body asked for them to be 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> represented by. 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Make up your mind, is it "woke" or bigoted?  (What 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> people appear to object to most about "woke" is that it's 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> not bigoted.) 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> It's both woke and bigoted. That's how the conjunction 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 'and' works. If I'd wanted to make it optional I would have 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> said 'or'. 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> five specials and an 8 episode season in the can 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> already and production is underway on the 2025 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> season), so we can either learn to live with it and 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> accept the show for what it now is, or move on. 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doctor Who ended in 2017. Other people will continue 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it from where it ended. RTD isn't making anything for 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the viewers, and neither was Chibnall. They're only 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> making stuff for their own woke degenerate egos. 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thus speaketh the fanatic who thinks canon should follow 
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> his fanfics. 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> My fan fic. was better written than both Chibnall's and 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> Davies's, based on real canon, and had an able bodied 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> Davros creating the Dalek travel machines so shouldn't you 
 >>>>>>>>>>>> be prizing it? 
 >>>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>>> Jodie Whittaker's Doctor IS real canon at this point.  It's 
 >>>>>>>>>>> not up to you, or anyone outside the production and publicity 
 >>>>>>>>>>> staff at BBC, to decide otherwise.  What you're talking about 
 >>>>>>>>>>> is fanfic. 
 >>>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>>> Whittaker is not canon and neither is anything derived from 
 >>>>>>>>>> the Timeless Child monster era. Doctor Who therefore ended in 
 >>>>>>>>>> 2017 and is irrevivable unless the Timeless Child monster is 
 >>>>>>>>>> erased. 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>>> [Hal Heydt] Who died and made you the arbiter of canon? 
 >>>>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>>> We've been waiting quite some time to get the answer to that 
 >>>>>>>> question, Dorothy. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>> That€€€s Dorothy€€€s husband Hal engaging, Daniel (hence the tag). At 
 >>>>>>> least until Aggie€€€s absurdities exhaust his patience. Dorothy 
 passed 
 >>>>>>> last year. 
 >>>>>>> 
 >>>>>>Ah!! Sorry! With the surname 'Heydt' I guessed a non-English speaking 
 >>>>>>poster, so thought the 'Hal' might have been from that other language. 
 >>>>>> 
 >>>>>>Sorry, Hal. Sorry for not realising you weren't Dorothy .... and sorry 
 >>>>>>for her passing (even though I didn't know her) .... but I guess 
 that'll 
 >>>>>>come to us all, sooner or later! 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>[Hal Heydt] 
 >>>>>I'm not upset about the mistake. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>A couple of bits of history...  The eponymous Heydt was Karl Otto 
 >>>>>Heydt who came to the US from Prussia to avoid being drafted to 
 >>>>>fight in the Franco-Prussian War of 1870. 
 >>>>> 
 >>>>>When we were married, Dorothy cheerfully change her surname from 
 >>>>>Jones to Heydt because she had found over the years that a 
 >>>>>surprising number of people could neither spell nor pronounce 
 >>>>>Jones.  (Go figure.)  Likewise, because of the same issue with 
 >>>>>Heydt, when our daughter was married, she changed her surname to 
 >>>>>that of her husband, Creelman.  She has since found...the same 
 >>>>>issue. 
 >>>> 
 >>>>Languages and cultures come to mind. 
 >>> 
 >>>[Hal Heydt] 
 >>>More about languages than you might suppose.  Dorothy had a 
 >>>degree in Linguistics.  Me...the only languages (other than 
 >>>English) that I can deal with are for programming computers. 
 >> 
 >>As in C, COBOL, Fortran, Pascal, BASIC ... 
 > 
 >[Hal Heydt] 
 >I *can* write in C, though not well.  I spent a lot of years 
 >writing in COBOL, and I can make it do things that aren't always 
 >meant to be possible.  FORTRAN is kind of rusty.  I started with 
 >FORTAN II and later got FORTRAN IV (pretty easy transition). 
 >Never learned Pascal.  BASIC I get by in because I knew FORTRAN. 
 >Also learned and/or used a number of assembly languages...  SPS 
 >IID, Autocoder, ALC (aka BAL), COMPASS.  (Points to those that 
 >can identify the machines or operating system those apply to.) 
 > 
 >Also got reasonably decent with SQL, which might or might not be 
 >considered a "laungauge". 
 > 
 >And then there's there other stuff like RPG and some similar 
 >languages whose names I've forgotten.  And the languages that I 
 >learned at one point and now can't even recall the names of.  Ah, 
 >yes...  ALGOL was one of them. 
  
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