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 From: dorewilliamson@verizon.net 
  
 "Andrew W (Agnostic Spiritualist)"  wrote 
 in message news:410f75f9$0$6790$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... 
  
 > He's planing to wipe most of us out and torture us is he not? 
 > Even though there is no evidence that we are hurting him in any way. 
 > I know you said a while back that we are hurting him with our sins, but 
 > there is no doctrine that I'm aware of that backs up this claim of yours. 
 > 
  
 He is planning on wiping out ALL evil and those that choose and DO evil. If 
 you are a member of that group, then you DESERVE to be wiped out for the 
 sake of the good and righteous people who have suffered because of you for 
 so long. 
  
 Sin is EVIL and EVIL hurts God, that is simply common sense for EVIL hurts 
 everyone. 
  
 cont 
 > I don't yet know who my creator is so none of the above is applicable. 
 > I don't believe humans have the faculties required to be able to determine 
 > who their true creator is and I don't believe that that's the reason we're 
 > in this world anyway. 
  
 There is ONLY ONE Creator, who CREATED all. You can't decide who your 
 creator is and thus ALL that I said is applicable. Your beliefs thinking 
 that you don't have the faculties required to learn and know the ONE and 
 ONLY Creator is simply your pathetic excuses NOT to seek Him, in the manner 
 that HE has determined that He can be found. Your beliefs or lack thereof, 
 does NOT remove, change or determine truths, for truth is truth, no matter 
 what you think or believe. I am informing you of the ONE and ONLY CREATOR 
 and you refuse this truth, so in essence you can NEVER find Him, therefore 
 in your denial of the truths, is EVIL, thus justice will be served through 
 your destruction. 
  
 cont 
  
 cont 
  
 > Who could that be? Let me guess. The Christian God? 
 > 
  
 Exactly, because the Father of Christ, IS the ONLY TRUE GOD, and in depth 
 study, understanding, consideration and seeking all of the truths of the 
 Bible, results in seeing the plan of God for mankind, from the beginning of 
 time until the end of the earth. No other religion offers this perfect plan 
 for mankind. 
  
 cont 
 > Don't let the other religions hear you say that about *their* One True 
 God. 
  
 Why don't they want to hear the truth either? They, like you, prefer the 
 lies, fantasies, and imaginations of their own desires, instead of the 
 truth. 
  
 > I have "checked" out and sought etc. plenty for you information. 
 > All I've found so far is a slew of conflicting doctrines and superstitious 
 > traditions. 
  
 Everything but the truth, for seeking, believing and DOING what the Bible 
 provides is abhorrent to you and thus you refuse to seek the ONLY way 
 possible for truths to be found. 
  
 cont 
  
 > Did you do balanced research of all data available in this world or did 
 all 
 > of your research consist of reading just one book - the Bible? 
  
 No, I have read many of the religious books and ideologies of many 
 religions, especially the most renown ones. 
  
 cont 
 > 
 > I don't believe that this world has any truths of the true benevolent 
 > Creator of all. 
  
 Then it is because you haven't found Him and experienced His mercy, grace, 
 goodness, truths, righteousness, faithfulness, power, majesty, greatness, 
 awesomeness, kindness, compassion, understanding and appreciate all that He 
 has given and done for mankind. 
  
  
 cont 
 > You claim that the Christian God is the true God but I've found that he's 
 > actually among the most immoral and self-centred out of the gods and I'm 
 not 
 > alone in my findings. 
  
 Immoral? HUH! He is the ONLY moral and TRUE GOD. It isn't self-centeredness 
 that he does, commands, demands and requires what He does, but when you 
 really get to know Him personally, intimately and completely, HE does YOU 
 the favor of ALLOWING you to worship Him, for when you are in His presence, 
 you can't help but be in awe, wonder and worship of Him, and great love for 
 Him, and are grateful that He allowed you to experience Him. He is that 
 awesome, wonderful, powerful, majestic and great. And there is NOTHING on 
 earth that you can compare Him to. 
  
 The reason that you are not alone in your findings is because there are MANY 
 who have yet to find Him and see Him as He truly is. You, like the many, are 
 still in darkness, sins, evil and blindness, corrupted by Satan, for which 
 you also refuse to believe in, thus he controls your mind, thoughts, and 
 actions, unaware, because you fail to confront him and resist him. 
 > 
  
 cont 
  
 > I thought so. You did no balanced research at all. 
 > You just read the Bible from cover to cover like a paperback novel and 
 then 
 > believed all it's claims of truth about itself. 
  
 No, after I believed, obeyed and found God, through miraculous and awesome 
 experiences in spiritual and supernatural events, which proved the Bible's 
 contents validity, I did go searching elsewhere to see if any other religion 
 offered more and they didn't stand up. Fact is, I did NOT read the Bible as 
 a paperback novel, but read each line and sentence, poured over it, 
 considered it, analyzed it and prayed about it until miraculous revelation 
 proved it's validity and truths to me. It was EXPERIENCING what was written 
 in truth that proved it's validity, not just reading it and believing it, 
 but I put each command, demand and requirement to the test with my own life 
 and witnessed and experienced the results, which proved to be true. 
  
 cont 
  
 > You're in love. I can tell. 
  
 I am very much in love, with a greater love that few could ever know. I only 
 wish that all, even you, could experience the great and awesome love of Him, 
 that consumes me every day, so you all could be as happy, content and joyful 
 as I am. Thank you for noticing. 
  
 cont 
 > > Few, as it was written and proven to be true in discerning the righteous 
 > > from the wicked. 
 > 
 > It was proven? Where is this proof exactly? 
  
 In mankind. Look around you, how many people do you know that walk in all of 
 the will, commands, demands and requirements of God, in all compassion, 
 understanding, joy, contentment, security, righteousness, kindness, 
 goodness, selflessness, generosity, and joy that being in love with God 
 brings? Or do you see unhappy people, greedy, selfish, self-serving, 
 materialistic, unrighteously judgmental, violent, lustful, perverted, 
 profane, thievery, warmongering, jealous, envious, coveting, secular, 
 contemptuous, arrogant, hypocritical, disobedient to God, parents etc? 
  
 cont 
 > 
 > Another question: If a human is nothing more than a physical body with 
 God's 
 > spirit breathed into it, then when a person dies, the physical body goes 
 to 
 > the grave and the spirit/soul (which is God's) goes back to him. 
 > But if the destination is hell, then won't it be God's spirit that will go 
 > to hell? 
  
  
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